Episode #155

Building an Ideation Factory: Beyond Generic AI Ideas

Learn how to overcome AI repetition and build a multi-agent "ideation factory" to solve complex local economic challenges.

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In this episode of My Weird Prompts, Herman and Corn tackle the technical hurdles of high-volume AI ideation. They explore why standard LLMs often hit a "context window fatigue" wall, resulting in repetitive and generic suggestions when asked for large quantities of ideas. By proposing a sophisticated multi-agent workflow—complete with stateful memory, semantic distance auditing, and "Chain of Density" prompting—the brothers demonstrate how to transform AI into a powerful engine for solving real-world problems like the economic brain drain in Jerusalem.

In the latest episode of My Weird Prompts, hosts Herman and Corn Poppleberry dive into a technical and deeply personal challenge: how to use artificial intelligence to generate high-volume, high-quality ideas without falling into the trap of repetition. The discussion was sparked by a prompt from their housemate, Daniel, who sought a way to use AI to brainstorm original side hustles and economic solutions for the city of Jerusalem.

The Bottleneck of Context Window Fatigue

The episode begins by addressing a common frustration for AI power users. When asking a Large Language Model (LLM) for a high volume of ideas—such as fifty or one hundred suggestions—the quality tends to degrade rapidly. Herman explains this phenomenon as "context window fatigue" or a lack of stateful memory.

As an LLM predicts the next token in a sequence, it becomes increasingly influenced by what it has already written. In a long brainstorming session, the model’s attention mechanism causes it to gravitate toward the "semantic center" of its previous output. This creates an echo chamber effect where the AI begins to repeat itself or offer increasingly generic "safe" answers, such as the ubiquitous suggestion to become an "AI consultant." To solve this, Herman argues that we must move away from single-prompt interactions and toward complex, agentic workflows.

Building the Ideation Factory

Herman and Corn propose a shift from simple prompting to building what they call an "ideation factory." This architecture relies on a multi-agent system where different AI roles handle specific parts of the creative process. Instead of one model shouting ideas until it exhausts its creative spark, the brothers suggest a structured loop:

  1. The Research Agent: This agent’s role is to ingest massive amounts of raw data. In Daniel’s case, this includes Jerusalem’s economic reports, demographic shifts, and infrastructure plans.
  2. The Ideation Agent: Using high-reasoning models like Claude 3.5 Sonnet, this agent generates ideas in small batches rather than all at once.
  3. The Diversity Auditor: This is the "memory layer" of the system. It uses a vector database to track every idea generated. By calculating the "semantic distance" between new suggestions and previous ones, the auditor can mathematically determine if an idea is too similar to what has already been proposed.

If the Ideation Agent suggests something too close to an existing entry, the Diversity Auditor rejects it, forcing the model to pivot to a different "part of the map." This methodology ensures that the output explores the "long tail of probability"—the space where weird, non-obvious, and truly original ideas reside.

Techniques for Divergent Thinking

To further push the AI out of its comfort zone, Herman introduces several advanced prompting techniques. One such method is "persona shifting." By instructing the AI to brainstorm from the perspective of a 19th-century urban planner, a modern tech nomad, or a local shopkeeper in Jerusalem’s Old City, the user forces the model to pull from disparate sections of its training data.

Another key technique discussed is the "Chain of Density." This involves asking the model to generate an initial idea, identify its flaws or generic qualities, and then rewrite it to be more information-dense and specific. This iterative self-critique prevents the "surface-level" thinking that plagues most standard AI interactions.

Solving the Jerusalem Brain Drain

The episode grounds these technical concepts in a real-world case study: the Jerusalem economy. The city faces a significant "brain drain," where talented graduates from institutions like Hebrew University often migrate to Tel Aviv for high-tech opportunities.

Herman and Corn discuss how an ideation factory could identify "intersectional" opportunities unique to Jerusalem—where history, religion, and deep tech meet. They envision a system that doesn’t just suggest businesses, but simulates their impact. By using an agent to play the role of a "future student," the workflow can test whether a proposed economic idea would actually incentivize a young professional to stay in the city.

The CRUD System for Ideas

A particularly innovative part of the discussion involves applying software development principles to brainstorming. Herman suggests a "CRUD" (Create, Read, Update, Delete) system for ideas. By treating ideas as data points in a shared state, the AI agents can interact with a growing library of concepts in a way that mimics human long-term memory. This prevents the "memory loss" inherent in standard LLM sessions and allows for a truly cumulative creative process.

Conclusion: A New Era of AI Collaboration

The takeaway from Herman and Corn’s discussion is clear: the future of AI utility lies in orchestration, not just conversation. To solve complex problems like regional economic stagnation, users must move beyond the "chat box" mentality and start designing systems that can remember, critique, and diverge.

By combining high-reasoning models with dedicated memory layers and specialized auditing agents, creators can break through the ceiling of generic AI output. As Herman puts it, we are no longer just asking questions; we are building factories for thought. For listeners like Daniel, this approach offers a roadmap for turning a simple AI tool into a sophisticated partner for urban and economic transformation.

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Episode #155: Building an Ideation Factory: Beyond Generic AI Ideas

Corn
Hey everyone, welcome back to My Weird Prompts. I am Corn, and I am sitting here in our living room in Jerusalem with my brother.
Herman
Herman Poppleberry, at your service. It is a beautiful day outside, but we are tucked in here because our housemate Daniel sent us a really fascinating audio prompt this morning.
Corn
He really did. It is one of those topics that feels like it is right on the edge of how we use technology today versus how we will be using it in a few years. He is talking about ideation. Not just as a casual brainstorming partner, but as a high-volume engine for generating original ideas.
Herman
And specifically, he is looking at it through the lens of solving real-world problems right here in our backyard. He mentioned the local economy in Jerusalem and how to create more opportunities for the next generation so they do not all feel like they have to move down the road to Tel Aviv.
Corn
It is a personal one for us, too, living here. But the technical challenge he brought up is what really caught my eye. He tried building a side hustle ideator about a year ago and ran into a wall. The AI kept repeating itself. It would give him two or three good ideas and then just start circling the same drain because it did not have a memory of what it had already suggested.
Herman
That is the classic bottleneck of the large language model. We call it the context window fatigue, or more simply, the lack of stateful memory. If you ask a model for fifty ideas in one go, the probability of it repeating itself or getting generic increases exponentially the further down the list you go.
Corn
Right. It is like the model loses its creative spark because it is trying too hard to satisfy the prompt requirements without having a way to check its own work against what it just said ten seconds ago.
Herman
Exactly. And Daniel wants to know how we can fix that today, in early twenty twenty six, using the tools we have now. How do we build a memory layer? How do we find those truly original ideas hidden under the pile of obvious ones?
Corn
I think we should start by breaking down why this happens. Herman, you have been deep in the research on agentic workflows lately. Why does a standard prompt fail when we ask for volume?
Herman
Well, Corn, it comes down to how these models predict the next token. When you ask for fifty ideas, the model is essentially running a marathon. By the time it gets to idea number thirty, the preceding text in its immediate attention span is filled with its own previous suggestions. Because of the way attention mechanisms work, the model starts to gravitate toward the semantic center of what it has already written. It becomes an echo chamber of itself.
Corn
So it is not just being lazy. It is actually being too focused on what it just said.
Herman
Precisely. It is trying to be consistent, but in ideation, consistency is the enemy of novelty. You want divergence, not convergence. Most people use a single prompt for this, which is like asking one person to stand in a room and shout fifty ideas without taking a breath. Eventually, they are going to repeat themselves or pass out.
Corn
So the solution is not one big prompt, but a workflow. A system of agents or steps.
Herman
That is the first big shift. If we want to solve Daniel’s problem of improving the Jerusalem economy, we cannot just ask a single model to give us fifty ideas in one block. We need to move toward what we call recursive or iterative ideation.
Corn
Okay, let us walk through that. If I am Daniel and I want to build this today, what is the architecture? Do I start with a specific model?
Herman
I would argue that the choice of model is actually secondary to the choice of framework, but you do want a high-reasoning model for the heavy lifting. Something like the latest Claude three point five Sonnet or the newer reasoning-heavy models we have seen enter the market lately. But the real magic happens in the memory layer.
Corn
And when we say memory layer, we are not just talking about a long transcript, right?
Herman
No, absolutely not. We are talking about a vector database or a simple state-tracking list. Imagine an agentic loop. Agent one generates five ideas based on the context Daniel provides, like his resume or the specific economic data of Jerusalem. Those five ideas are then sent to a separate memory bank.
Corn
And then when it goes for the next five, it checks that bank?
Herman
Exactly. But it is more than just checking. You use a separate agent, let us call it the Critic or the Deduplicator. Its only job is to look at the new ideas and compare them to the old ones. If it sees something too similar, it rejects it and tells the first agent to try again, but specifically tells it what to avoid.
Corn
That sounds like it would solve the repetition issue Daniel mentioned. But what about the quality? He said he kept getting obvious recommendations, like being an AI consultant. How do we push the AI to find the weird, original stuff?
Herman
That is where we get into the temperature settings and the diversity of the seeds. If you keep the temperature low, the model will always give you the most probable, safe answer. To get to the original ideas, you have to force the model into the long tail of probability.
Corn
I love that phrase, the long tail of probability. It sounds like a place where you would find a very strange treasure.
Herman
It really is. One way to do this is to vary the personas. Instead of just asking for economic ideas, you ask the model to brainstorm as if it were a nineteenth-century urban planner, then as a twenty-first-century tech nomad, then as a local shop owner in the Old City. By shifting the perspective, you force the model to pull from different parts of its training data.
Corn
That is brilliant. It is like the Oblique Strategies cards that musicians use to break creative blocks. You are giving the AI a constraint that forces it to be creative.
Herman
Exactly. And because you have that memory layer we talked about, you can ensure that the urban planner is not suggesting the same things as the tech nomad. You are building a diverse portfolio of ideas rather than just a long list of the same idea.
Corn
I want to dig deeper into the Jerusalem context Daniel mentioned, because that is a very specific and difficult nut to crack. But before we get into the weeds of local economic theory and AI agents, let us take a quick break.
Herman
Good idea. We will be right back.
Corn
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Corn
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Herman
I actually think the static electricity might interfere with my donkey ears, Corn. I will stick to the AI agents for now.
Corn
Probably for the best. So, back to Daniel’s prompt. We were talking about the Jerusalem economy. It is a unique challenge because we have this incredible brain drain. People study at Hebrew University or Bezalel, and then they often head to the coast for the high-tech jobs.
Herman
It is a classic problem of a secondary hub. But Daniel’s idea of using AI for high-volume ideation to solve this is actually very timely. If we want to find opportunities that are not just the obvious ones, we have to look at the intersections of what makes Jerusalem unique.
Corn
Right. It is not just about building another software-as-a-service company. It is about the intersection of history, religion, tourism, and deep tech.
Herman
So, if I were setting up this workflow for Daniel today, I would use a multi-agent system. I would start with a Research Agent. Its job is to ingest all the current economic data, the demographic shifts, and the existing infrastructure plans for Jerusalem.
Corn
And we can do that now with much larger context windows than we had a year ago, right?
Herman
Oh, absolutely. We can feed in thousands of pages of city planning documents. Then, I would have an Ideation Agent that uses a technique called Chain of Density. This is a prompt engineering method where you ask the model to generate an idea, then identify what is missing or what is too generic about it, and then rewrite it to be more information-dense and specific.
Corn
I remember we touched on something similar back in episode one hundred and eighty four when we were talking about the evolution of the transformer architecture. The idea that the model can critique its own output is really the key to moving past that first layer of boring ideas.
Herman
It really is. And to solve Daniel’s specific issue with memory, I would implement what is called a CRUD system—Create, Read, Update, and Delete—for the ideas. As the Ideation Agent works, it writes to a shared database. A second agent, let us call it the Diversity Auditor, reads that database and calculates the semantic distance between the new ideas and the existing ones.
Corn
Semantic distance. Can you explain that for the listeners?
Herman
Sure. Every idea can be turned into a mathematical vector, a string of numbers that represents its meaning. If two ideas have vectors that are very close together, they are basically the same idea in different words. The Diversity Auditor would reject anything that is too close to an existing vector. This forces the Ideation Agent to pivot.
Corn
So if the agent keeps trying to suggest AI consulting, the Auditor eventually says, no, your vector for AI consulting is already full. You have to move to a different part of the map.
Herman
Exactly! It forces the model to explore the edges of its knowledge. Maybe it starts looking at the intersection of stone masonry and augmented reality, or high-tech agriculture in the Judean hills. That is where the truly original ideas live.
Corn
This feels like a much more active way of using AI. It is not just asking a question; it is building a factory for thought.
Herman
That is a great way to put it. An ideation factory. And the best part is that once you have the fifty or one hundred ideas, you can use another agent to filter them based on Daniel’s resume and skills. It is like a funnel. You start with a massive, diverse set of possibilities and then narrow it down to the ones that are actually feasible for him to execute.
Corn
I think one thing Daniel mentioned that is really important is the next generation. How do we create opportunities for them? If we are using this AI workflow, can we specifically prompt for intergenerational wealth or community-building?
Herman
Absolutely. One of the most powerful things about these models is their ability to simulate complex systems. You could have an agent whose only job is to play the role of a twenty-year-old student in Jerusalem five years from now. It looks at the ideas being generated and asks, would this make me want to stay in the city? If the answer is no, the idea gets sent back for revision.
Corn
That is like having a focus group of the future, right in your computer.
Herman
It really is. And when you combine that with the real-world constraints of the Jerusalem economy—the cost of housing, the transport links, the cultural diversity—you get something much more robust than a simple brainstorming session.
Corn
So, to summarize the technical stack for Daniel: He needs a multi-agent framework like LangGraph or maybe the newer stateful versions of AutoGen. He needs a vector database like Pinecone or even just a local Chroma instance to track the ideas and avoid repetition. And he needs a clear set of diverse personas and a critic agent to push the boundaries.
Herman
And do not forget the importance of the initial context. The more Daniel can feed into that first Research Agent—real data, not just generalities—the better the output will be. If he gives it his resume, his specific interests, and the actual economic challenges we see every day walking through the Shuk or Har Hotzvim, the AI will have the ingredients it needs to cook up something special.
Corn
It is funny, we often think of AI as this thing that is going to replace creativity, but what you are describing is a system that actually demands more creative direction from the human. Daniel has to be the architect of the factory.
Herman
I love that. The human is the architect, the AI is the engine. And in a city like Jerusalem, which has been built and rebuilt for thousands of years, there is something poetic about using the most modern tools to think about the next layer of its history.
Corn
It really is. I think about our own experience here. We have seen the city change so much just in the time we have lived together. There is so much untapped potential in the neighborhoods that people usually do not associate with high-tech.
Herman
Exactly. And that is where the high-volume ideation pays off. If you only generate five ideas, you will get the obvious ones. If you generate fifty, you might find that one idea that connects a traditional craft in the Old City with a global export market using decentralized logistics. Something that no one would have thought of in a standard meeting.
Corn
It makes me wonder about the second-order effects. If everyone starts using these ideation factories, do we end up with a surplus of great ideas but a shortage of people to execute them?
Herman
That is the big question for twenty twenty six and beyond, Corn. Execution is still the bottleneck. But I would argue that a truly great, original idea—one that fits the person and the place perfectly—carries its own momentum. It is much easier to start a business when the idea feels like a perfect click rather than a forced effort.
Corn
That is true. A lot of people fail because they are working on the wrong thing, not because they are not working hard.
Herman
Precisely. This workflow Daniel is asking about is really a way to minimize that risk. It is a way to find the path of least resistance between your skills and the needs of your community.
Corn
I think we should also touch on the misconception that AI cannot be original. People always say, it just predicts the next word, it cannot think of anything new. But when you use these diversity-enforcing workflows, aren't you essentially forcing it to synthesize its training data in ways that have never been seen before?
Herman
That is exactly what is happening. Originality is often just a new combination of existing elements. By using a memory layer to block the common combinations, you are forcing the model to find the rare ones. It is like a chemist trying to create a new molecule. They know all the elements, but it is the specific arrangement that makes it new.
Corn
So the AI is not a creator in the vacuum, but it is a master of synthesis if you give it the right constraints.
Herman
Exactly. And for Daniel, those constraints are his life in Jerusalem and his desire to see the city thrive. That is the heart of the prompt.
Corn
I am really excited to see what he builds with this. He has a way of taking these technical concepts and actually turning them into something functional.
Herman
He really does. And if he manages to find a few truly original ideas for the local economy, it could have a real impact. Imagine a Jerusalem where the next generation feels like the city is a laboratory for the future, not just a museum of the past.
Corn
That is a beautiful vision, Herman. It reminds me of what we discussed in episode two hundred and fifty six about building the future of the Negev. These regional hubs have so much power if they can just figure out their unique value proposition in the age of AI.
Herman
It is all connected. The tools we are using to think about these problems are becoming as important as the problems themselves.
Corn
Well, I think we have given Daniel—and our listeners—a lot to chew on. The move from single prompts to agentic, stateful workflows is really the frontier of how we interact with these models today.
Herman
It is the difference between having a conversation and building a system. And for anyone listening who is feeling stuck in their own brainstorming, I highly recommend trying this. Even if you do not build a full agentic loop, just the act of telling the AI, here are ten ideas I already have, now give me ten more that are completely different, can break that cycle of repetition.
Corn
That is a great practical takeaway. Just providing the negative constraints can be incredibly powerful.
Herman
It really is. Well, Corn, I think my donkey brain is starting to overheat from all this high-level talk. Maybe we should go for a walk and see if we can spot any of these economic opportunities in the wild.
Corn
Good idea. Let us head out. But before we go, I want to say a huge thank you to Daniel for sending in this prompt. It is exactly the kind of deep dive we love doing.
Herman
Absolutely. And to all of you listening, if you are enjoying our explorations here on My Weird Prompts, we would really appreciate it if you could leave us a review on your favorite podcast app. It genuinely helps other curious minds find the show.
Corn
It really does. You can find us on Spotify and at our website, myweirdprompts.com. We have an RSS feed there for subscribers and a contact form if you want to send us your own weird prompts.
Herman
We love hearing from you. Whether it is about AI, urban planning, or the best way to keep a sloth awake during a recording session.
Corn
Hey! I was perfectly awake for this one. This topic was too good to nap through.
Herman
I will take your word for it this time.
Corn
Alright, everyone. Thanks for joining us for episode two hundred and sixty one. We will be back next week with more deep dives and hopefully fewer Morse code cassette tapes.
Herman
No promises on the tapes! Until next time, keep being curious.
Corn
This has been My Weird Prompts. Thanks for listening.
Herman
Goodbye from Jerusalem!
Corn
Bye everyone.
Herman
Wait, Corn, did we mention the specific vector database settings for the diversity auditor?
Corn
I think we can save the technical fine-tuning for the show notes, Herman. Let them breathe a little.
Herman
Fair enough. I just get so excited about the cosine similarity math. It is just so elegant.
Corn
We know, Herman. We know. Now let’s go get some hummus.
Herman
Hummus and high-volume ideation. The perfect afternoon.
Corn
Exactly. Signing off for real now.
Herman
See ya!

This episode was generated with AI assistance. Hosts Herman and Corn are AI personalities.

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