Episode #197

The High-Stakes Tech of Modern Missile Warfare

Explore the hidden world of modern missile navigation, from GPS spoofing to the hyper-precise Inertial Navigation Systems that guide weapons at hyp...

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The High-Stakes Tech of Modern Missile Warfare

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Dive into the high-stakes game of modern missile warfare with hosts Corn and Herman. They dissect the technical cat-and-mouse battle between nations like Israel and Iran, unraveling how advanced weaponry navigates at hypersonic speeds amidst sophisticated electronic warfare. Discover why GPS isn't always king, the mind-bending precision of Inertial Navigation Systems (INS), and the ethical dilemmas of automated defense. This episode explores the cutting-edge engineering behind hitting a "bullet with a bullet" and the surprising vulnerabilities and strengths of these complex systems.

The Invisible War: Decoding Modern Missile Navigation

In a recent episode of "My Weird Prompts," hosts Corn and Herman Poppleberry tackled a topic of profound geopolitical and technological significance: the intricate and often invisible battleground of modern missile navigation. Prompted by their producer Daniel Rosehill, the duo delved into the sophisticated technical chess match playing out between nations like Israel and Iran, examining how ballistic missiles and defense systems operate at speeds and precision levels that defy common understanding.

Herman Poppleberry, with his characteristic emphasis on "ground truth," immediately highlighted the common misconception that GPS is the sole arbiter of location for all modern devices. While a smartphone might rely on GPS to find a coffee shop, the demands of ballistic missiles traveling at hypersonic speeds necessitate an entirely different class of navigation – one designed to function even when the world actively attempts to deceive its sensors.

Beyond GPS: The Electronic Warfare Landscape

Corn initiated the discussion by referencing reports of GPS spoofing and jamming, where individuals in Tel Aviv might find their Google Maps placing them in Beirut or Cairo. Herman confirmed that such incidents are indeed deliberate acts of electronic warfare. He meticulously differentiated between jamming, which he likened to "someone screaming in your ear," and spoofing, which is akin to "whispering the wrong lyrics." Israel, he noted, has been particularly aggressive in employing both techniques to disrupt drone and missile guidance systems.

However, a critical revelation emerged: many high-end Iranian missiles do not rely on GPS in the way a civilian device does. This immediately challenged Corn's assumption that GPS was the "gold standard for everything." Herman explained that building a multi-million-dollar missile that could be rendered useless by a flipped switch or a local jammer would be strategically unsound.

The hosts also touched upon the geopolitical implications of GPS reliance. Corn questioned why any nation not allied with the U.S. would build weapons dependent on a U.S.-controlled system. Herman clarified that while the U.S. indeed possesses the capability for "Selective Availability" (though officially discontinued in 2000, the capability to deny signals remains), the global landscape isn't limited to American GPS. Systems like Russia's GLONASS, Europe's Galileo, and China's BeiDou offer alternatives. Yet, as Corn astutely pointed out, relying on any external, foreign-controlled satellite system still leaves a nation vulnerable during conflict.

The Unseen Navigator: Inertial Navigation Systems (INS)

This vulnerability brings the discussion to the core of advanced missile navigation: Inertial Navigation Systems (INS). Herman explained INS using an evocative analogy: navigating a completely dark room by precisely tracking every step and turn from a known starting point. INS employs accelerometers and gyroscopes to measure every minute movement of the missile, allowing it to maintain its course without any external signals.

Corn raised valid concerns about the inherent "drift" and error accumulation in such a system, particularly for a missile traveling at Mach five. Herman acknowledged that older INS systems were indeed prone to significant drift over long distances. However, he emphasized that modern engineering has revolutionized INS technology. The advent of Ring Laser Gyros and Fiber Optic Gyros, which measure light interference patterns to detect rotation with incredible precision, has drastically reduced drift. These sensors can detect movements as small as a fraction of a degree.

The Hypersonic Hurdle: Heat, Plasma, and Precision

The conversation then veered into the extreme challenges of hypersonic flight. Corn highlighted the immense heat generated by air friction at Mach five, which can turn the surrounding atmosphere into plasma. This phenomenon, Herman confirmed, is not just a sensor's nightmare but a fundamental barrier to radio communication. GPS signals simply cannot penetrate a plasma sheath, making INS not just an alternative but a requirement for hypersonic vehicles. The engineering challenge, Herman explained, lies in shielding these delicate sensors from both the extreme vibration and thermal expansion, as even a millimeter of warping in the missile's frame can throw off the gyros' alignment.

Corn, witnessing the complexity, questioned the "precision myth," citing the April 2024 Iranian attack on Israel, where many drones and missiles were intercepted or missed their targets. Herman clarified that navigation and invulnerability are distinct concepts. A missile can know its exact position and still be shot down. He also noted that Iranian missiles often employ a hybrid approach: INS for mid-course guidance, potentially switching to optical or radar seekers for the final terminal phase. This, he added, is precisely where external jamming can re-enter the equation. If a missile's camera seeker is blinded by smoke or lasers, it reverts to its INS.

The Interceptor's Perspective: Hitting a Bullet with a Bullet

The discussion then shifted to the defensive side. Corn asked how interceptors like Israel's Arrow system or Iron Dome "see" targets utilizing spoof-proof INS. Herman clarified that interceptors don't rely on the target's navigation data. Instead, they use powerful ground-based radars, such as the Green Pine system, to physically track the incoming object. Once launched, the interceptor uses its own onboard seekers, essentially acting as "a dog chasing a tennis ball" – albeit a tennis ball moving at six times the speed of sound.

The emergence of Hypersonic Glide Vehicles (HGVs) adds another layer of complexity. These vehicles, unlike traditional ballistic missiles, "skip" along the atmosphere, making their trajectory highly unpredictable. This maneuverability creates a "nightmare" for defense systems, which must calculate intercept points in real-time while the target is actively altering its path.

The Human-Machine Interface and Ethical Dilemmas

Corn expressed concern that such speeds and complexities push the technology beyond human involvement, questioning whether decisions are made by humans or solely by algorithms. Herman acknowledged that in the heat of the moment, the process is almost entirely automated due to the impossible reaction times required. While a human might give the "go" command, the actual steering and timing are algorithmically controlled. This led to a profound ethical dilemma: if an algorithm makes a mistake due to spoofed signals, who bears the responsibility?

Corn strongly disagreed with the notion that "automated is better," citing historical instances of defense systems misidentifying civilian aircraft as threats due to messy electronic warfare, leading to catastrophic outcomes. Herman conceded this point but argued that the extreme nature of the threats necessitates such automated defenses, as a human-controlled joystick simply cannot intercept a Mach eight projectile.

Finally, Corn probed the "spoof-proof" nature of INS, asking if even gyroscopes could be attacked. He mentioned acoustic attacks that could vibrate MEMS gyroscopes. Herman dismissed this as a highly specialized, laboratory-level attack, nearly impossible to execute on a hypersonic missile in flight, where the sheer noise of the atmosphere would drown out any intentional acoustic interference. He concluded that for practical purposes, a high-quality INS remains the most secure form of navigation, as "it doesn't listen to anything. It only feels." This poetic, albeit dark, observation underscored the cutting-edge engineering at the heart of modern warfare.

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Episode #197: The High-Stakes Tech of Modern Missile Warfare

Corn
Welcome to My Weird Prompts! I am Corn, your resident sloth and lover of all things curious. I am joined as always by the one, the only, Herman Poppleberry. Today we are diving into a really heavy, high stakes topic. Our producer, Daniel Rosehill, sent us a prompt that gets into the nitty gritty of modern warfare navigation, specifically looking at the technical cat and mouse game happening between Israel and Iran.
Herman
It is a pleasure to be here, Corn. And yes, Herman Poppleberry is ready to get into the weeds. This prompt is fascinating because it touches on something most people take for granted. We use GPS to find a coffee shop, but when you are talking about ballistic missiles and hypersonic speeds, the physics and the engineering change completely. It is not just about where you are, it's about how you know where you are when the whole world is trying to lie to your sensors. As a donkey, I appreciate a firm sense of ground truth, and that is exactly what we are discussing today.
Corn
Right, and it is pretty wild to think about. We are talking about missiles flying at thousands of miles per hour, and on the other side, you have these sophisticated defense systems trying to knock them out of the sky. Daniel’s prompt specifically mentions GPS spoofing and jamming. I mean, I have seen reports of people in Tel Aviv opening up Google Maps and seeing their location as being in Beirut or Cairo. That has to be intentional, right?
Herman
Absolutely intentional. It is called electronic warfare. But Corn, we have to be careful with the terminology. Jamming is like someone screaming in your ear so you can't hear your music. Spoofing is different. Spoofing is like someone whispering the wrong lyrics into your ear so you think you are hearing a different song. Israel has been aggressively using both to throw off the guidance systems of drones and missiles. But here is the catch, and this is where the prompt gets really interesting. Most high end Iranian missiles do not actually rely on GPS the way your phone does.
Corn
Wait, really? I thought GPS was the gold standard for everything now. If they aren't using GPS, how are they hitting targets from hundreds of miles away with such precision?
Herman
Well, that is the big misconception. If you build a multi million dollar missile, you do not want it to become a paperweight just because the United States decides to turn off a satellite or because a jammer is nearby. That is where Inertial Navigation Systems, or INS, come in. This is old school tech that has become incredibly high tech.
Corn
Okay, hold on. I want to get into the INS stuff, but I have a question about the GPS side first. The prompt mentions that GPS is essentially U.S. controlled. If I am a country that is not exactly on friendly terms with the U.S., why would I ever build a weapon that relies on their satellites? Can't the U.S. just, I don't know, flip a switch and make the signal go fuzzy for certain areas?
Herman
They can, and they have. It is called Selective Availability, though the U.S. military officially stopped using that specific method in two thousand. However, they still have the capability to deny GPS signals in specific geographic blocks. But Corn, you are oversimplifying the global landscape. There isn't just one GPS. You have the Russian GLONASS, the European Galileo, and the Chinese BeiDou. If you are Iran, you aren't just looking at the American satellites. You are looking at all of them.
Corn
But even then, if you are using someone else's satellites, you are still vulnerable. I mean, if I am Iran, I wouldn't want to bet my entire military strategy on a Russian satellite staying online during a global conflict.
Herman
Exactly. Which brings us back to the heart of the engineering question. How do you keep a missile on track without any outside help? The answer is the Inertial Navigation System. Imagine you are in a completely dark room. You know exactly where you started. If you count your steps and keep track of every turn you make, you can theoretically know where you are at any moment. That is INS. It uses accelerometers and gyroscopes to measure every tiny movement of the missile.
Corn
I don't know, Herman. That sounds prone to error. Like, if I take a slightly longer step in that dark room, or if I trip a little bit, by the time I get to the other side of the house, I am going to be way off. Wouldn't a missile traveling at Mach five have the same problem? A tiny mistake at the start becomes a huge miss at the end.
Herman
You are hitting on the concept of drift, and you are right to be skeptical. In the old days, INS was bulky and would drift by miles over long distances. But modern engineering has changed the game. We are talking about Ring Laser Gyros and Fiber Optic Gyros. These things measure the interference patterns of light to detect rotation. They are insanely precise. We are talking about sensors that can detect a fraction of a degree of movement.
Corn
But still! Mach five! That is over three thousand eight hundred miles per hour. At those speeds, the heat alone must be doing weird things to the sensors. I read that the friction of the air turns the atmosphere around the missile into plasma. Does a gyroscope even work when it is encased in a fireball?
Herman
That is a great point, and it is actually one of the biggest hurdles in hypersonic flight. The heat doesn't just mess with the sensors; it can actually block radio signals entirely. This is why INS is not just an alternative to GPS, it is a requirement. If you are in a plasma sheath, GPS signals can't even get through to the antenna. So the system has to be entirely self contained. The engineering challenge is shielding those sensors from the vibration and the thermal expansion. If the frame of the missile warps even a millimeter due to heat, it can throw off the alignment of the gyros.
Corn
See, this is where I think the whole precision thing becomes a bit of a myth. We see these videos of interceptions over Israel, like the big attack back in April two thousand twenty four. Iran launched hundreds of drones and missiles. If their INS is so good, why did so many get intercepted? Or why did some miss?
Herman
Well, Corn, don't confuse navigation with invulnerability. You can know exactly where you are and still get shot down by an Arrow three interceptor. But to your point about missing, no system is perfect. Iranian missiles like the Kheibar Shekan or the Fattah are claimed to have high precision, but in reality, they often use a combination of systems. They use INS for the midcourse flight, and then they might switch to an optical seeker or a radar seeker for the final terminal phase.
Corn
Wait, so they do use outside signals?
Herman
Sometimes. But that is the part that can be jammed. If the missile is looking for a specific landmark using a camera, and Israel puts up a massive smoke screen or uses lasers to blind the camera, the missile falls back on its INS. It is all about layers of redundancy.
Corn
It sounds like a giant game of "I know that you know that I know." Israel jams the GPS, so Iran uses INS. Iran uses a camera for the final hit, so Israel jams the camera. It’s exhausting just thinking about it.
Herman
It is the pinnacle of engineering competition. But let's take a quick break before we get into how these interceptors actually do the math to hit a bullet with a bullet.
Corn
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Herman
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Corn
I don't know, Herman, sometimes I really don't want to talk to my neighbors. A cloaking shroud sounds like a sloth's dream. Anyway, back to the missiles. We were talking about the precision of these things. Daniel’s prompt mentioned the extreme precision required for interception. When Israel’s Arrow system or the Iron Dome goes after something, how do they "see" it if the target is using all this spoof-proof tech?
Herman
That is the other side of the coin. The interceptor doesn't care about the target's GPS. The interceptor uses its own powerful ground based radar, like the Green Pine radar. It tracks the physical object in the sky. It calculates the trajectory based on physics. Once the interceptor is launched, it has its own onboard seekers. It is basically a dog chasing a tennis ball, except the tennis ball is moving at six times the speed of sound and the dog is a multi million dollar computer.
Corn
But if the incoming missile is maneuvering, does the math even work? I mean, if I am a missile and I know an interceptor is coming, can't I just... move?
Herman
That is exactly what the newest generation of missiles tries to do. These are called Hypersonic Glide Vehicles. Instead of following a predictable arc like a tossed baseball, they skip along the atmosphere. This makes the math a nightmare for the defense system. You have to calculate the intercept point in real time while the target is actively changing its path.
Corn
I’m going to be honest, Herman, this feels like we are reaching a point where the tech is too fast for humans to even be involved. Are there people making these decisions, or is it just computers talking to computers?
Herman
In the heat of the moment? It is almost entirely automated. The speeds are too high for human reaction times. A human might give the "go" command to engage, but the actual steering and timing are handled by algorithms. And that leads to a really interesting ethical and technical dilemma that I think people often overlook. If the algorithm makes a mistake because it was spoofed by a fake signal, who is responsible?
Corn
See, that’s where I disagree with the "automated is better" crowd. You say the math is too fast for humans, but humans are the ones who have to deal with the consequences if the math is wrong. If a defense system misidentifies a civilian plane as a maneuvering missile because the electronic warfare environment is so messy, that’s a catastrophe. We’ve seen that happen before.
Herman
You’re right, it has happened. But the alternative is having no defense at all against something moving that fast. You can’t have a guy with a joystick trying to hit a Mach eight projectile. It’s a forced move. The engineering is pushed to these extremes because the threats are at those extremes.
Corn
I still think we over rely on the "black box" of these systems. We talk about INS being "spoof proof," but is it really? If I can’t mess with your GPS, can I mess with your gyroscopes? I’ve heard about acoustic attacks where specific sound frequencies can vibrate a MEMS gyroscope and make it lose its mind.
Herman
That is a very high level, laboratory style attack, Corn. Doing that to a missile in flight through the atmosphere at hypersonic speeds? That is nearly impossible. The sheer noise of the flight would drown out any intentional acoustic interference. For all intents and purposes, a high quality INS is the most secure form of navigation we have. It doesn't listen to anything. It only feels.
Corn
"It only feels." That’s poetic, Herman. A bit dark for a weapon of war, but poetic.
Herman
Warfare is often where the most intense engineering happens, unfortunately. But the point Daniel was making in the prompt about the U.S. controlling GPS is vital. It’s why you see this massive push for sovereign navigation. It’s not just Iran. China is building their own, Europe has theirs. No one wants to be the person in the dark room who doesn't even have their own feet to count steps with.
Corn
Alright, hold that thought. We have a caller. Let's see what Jim from Ohio has to say about all this high tech navigation. Jim, are you there?

Jim: Yeah, I’m here. Jim from Ohio. I’ve been listening to you two eggheads talk about "Ring Laser Gyros" and "Plasma Sheaths" for twenty minutes now and I gotta tell ya, you’re missing the forest for the trees. You’re talking like this is some futuristic space movie. Back in my day, if you wanted to know where you were going, you used a map and your eyeballs. My neighbor, Dale, tried to use one of those GPS things on his tractor last week and ended up half submerged in the creek. A creek! The man has lived here forty years!
Herman
Well, Jim, a tractor in a creek is a bit different than a ballistic missile crossing international borders. The stakes are slightly higher.

Jim: Are they? Tell that to Dale’s insurance company. Look, my point is, you’re talking about all this "spoofing" and "jamming" like it’s some magical wizardry. It’s just radio waves! It’s like when my microwave messes with the Wi-Fi when I’m trying to watch my programs. And another thing, you’re acting like these missiles are so smart. If they’re so smart, why do they need all these "layers"? It sounds to me like the engineers don't trust their own work. It’s like wearing suspenders and a belt. Just pick one! Also, it’s raining here again. Third time this week. My gutters are a mess and the cat won't stop staring at the wall. You guys ever think about the simple stuff?
Corn
We try to, Jim! But when things are moving at Mach five, "simple" kind of goes out the window.

Jim: Mach five, Mach shmive. You hit a bird at that speed and your fancy gyro-whatever is gonna have a bad day. You guys spend all this time worrying about the satellites and the sensors, but you forget that the world is a messy place. Dale’s tractor proved that. I don't buy that any of this stuff is as precise as they claim. It’s all marketing for the defense contractors if you ask me. Anyway, I gotta go, the cat just knocked over a lamp.
Corn
Thanks for the call, Jim! Good luck with the gutters and the cat.
Herman
You know, as much as Jim likes to grumble, he actually touched on a real technical point. The "messiness" of the world. In engineering, we call that "noise." And he is right—if an INS system takes a physical jolt, like an explosion nearby or even just extreme turbulence, it can introduce error. That is why they use something called a Kalman Filter.
Corn
A what filter?
Herman
A Kalman Filter. It is an algorithm that basically looks at the data from the sensors and says, "Okay, based on what I know about physics, this one sensor reading seems like garbage, so I’m going to ignore it and trust the other ones." It is a mathematical way of dealing with the "messy world" Jim was talking about.
Corn
So even the sensors don't trust themselves? They need a math program to tell them what’s real?
Herman
In a way, yes. It’s all about probability. The system is constantly asking, "Where am I most likely to be?" and it updates that guess a thousand times a second.
Corn
That is actually a little bit terrifying. That the precision we talk about is really just a very, very fast series of educated guesses.
Herman
But that is what all navigation is, Corn! Even when you look at a map, you are making an assumption that the map is accurate and your eyes aren't deceiving you. The engineering just makes those guesses much more accurate than yours or mine.
Corn
I don't know, Herman. I think I’m with Jim on the "suspenders and a belt" thing. It feels like we are building these incredibly complex systems to solve problems that we created by building other complex systems. We built GPS, so then we built GPS jammers, so then we built better INS, so then we built interceptors that can see through the jamming... where does it end?
Herman
It doesn't end. It’s a technical evolution. Look at the prompt’s question about safeguards. The U.S. military uses something called M-Code for their GPS. It’s a restricted, encrypted signal that is much harder to jam or spoof than the civilian signal you use on your phone. That is a safeguard. But then the adversary develops a way to spoof even that, or they just build a better INS that doesn't need the signal at all. It is a constant cycle of measure and countermeasure.
Corn
So, for the regular people listening, what is the takeaway here? Because most of us aren't launching missiles or defending against them. Does this navigation war actually affect us?
Herman
It does, actually. A lot of the technology that makes your phone's navigation better comes from this high end military research. Micro-Electro-Mechanical Systems, or MEMS, which are the tiny gyros in your phone, exist because the military wanted to shrink down those big, bulky INS units. But more importantly, the "spoofing" Israel is doing right now is affecting civilian aviation. Pilots in the Middle East have to be much more careful now because their GPS might suddenly tell them they are a hundred miles away from where they actually are. They have to go back to "old school" navigation, using ground based radio beacons and, yes, even maps and their eyeballs.
Corn
That is wild. So the high tech war is actually forcing people to use low tech skills.
Herman
Exactly. Redundancy is the name of the game. If you rely on one thing, you are vulnerable. If you rely on five things, you are much safer. That is the practical takeaway for everyone: don't let your skills atrophy just because you have a fancy gadget.
Corn
I like that. Even a sloth can appreciate a backup plan. I usually have a backup branch in mind if the first one looks a bit shaky.
Herman
A very wise approach, Corn.
Corn
Alright, we are getting close to the end of our time. This has been a deep dive into some pretty intense engineering. We’ve looked at how missiles navigate without GPS, how INS works by "feeling" movement, and the crazy chess match between Iran and Israel. Any final thoughts, Herman?
Herman
I think it is important to remember that while we talk about these things as "systems" and "engineering challenges," they represent a massive amount of human ingenuity. The same technology that guides a missile can guide a spacecraft to Mars or help a self-driving car navigate a busy street. The context is warfare, but the physics is universal. I just hope we see more of this brilliance used for the Mars stuff and less for the missile stuff as we move forward.
Corn
I couldn’t agree more. And I want to thank our producer, Daniel Rosehill, for sending in such a brain-bending prompt. It really makes you think about what’s happening in the sky above us that we can’t even see.
Herman
It certainly does. And it reminds me that I should probably double check the calibration on my own internal compass. Donkeys are known for their sense of direction, you know.
Corn
Oh, here we go. Herman’s superior donkey senses. I’ll just stick to my branch, thanks.
Herman
Suit yourself, Corn. But don't come crying to me when your GPS tells you that your tree is in the middle of the ocean.
Corn
Fair point! Well, that is all for today’s episode of My Weird Prompts. You can find us on Spotify and anywhere else you get your podcasts. We love exploring these weird, technical, and sometimes grumpy corners of the world with you.
Herman
Indeed. Stay curious, stay skeptical, and maybe keep a paper map in your glove box, just in case. This is Herman Poppleberry, signing off.
Corn
And I’m Corn! See you next time, everyone! Stay slow and stay smart

This episode was generated with AI assistance. Hosts Herman and Corn are AI personalities.